Post by james on Jan 27, 2009 19:28:57 GMT -5
It's been argued here that Islam and the Koran represent a violent, blood-thirsty religion. But in those terms the Koran hardly takes a back-seat to the Christian Bible.
The Christian God demands that blood be spilled in order for him to extend his mercy (Leviticus 17:11). Thousands of years ago, God was willing to accept the spilled blood of animals in exchange for his forgiveness, but even the deaths of billions of animals didn't provide enough blood to satiate his hunger.
The Bible tells us that humans were to be killed as an offering to this bloodthirsty God (Leviticus 27:29) even though modern believers deny that God accepted human sacrifice, that's exactly what these executions were. Even that human blood wasn't sufficient to permit God's "grace" to cover the sins of man so a half human/half God (Jesus) had to be killed.
Cain offers the fruit of the ground to God while Able sacrifices the firstborn of his flocks. God respects the blood sacrifice but not the offering of plants. - Genesis 4:2-8.
The first thing Noah does after getting off the ark is kill some of the animals that he had saved for God. The smell of burning meat softens God's heart and he promises not to flood the earth like that again. - Genesis 7:2-3, 8:19-21.
God demands that all the men of his "chosen race" mutilate their winky and spill their own blood as a form of mini-sacrifice to show their loyalty. - Genesis 17:11.
God commands Abraham to kill his son as a human sacrifice, but changes his mind at the last minute. - Genesis 22:1-2.
God sends Jephthah's daughter out to him as a sign that he is to kill her and offer her as a human sacrifice. God doesn't change his mind on this one. - Judges 11:30-39.
God goes to great lengths to describe exactly how animals are to be slaughtered, prepared, and roasted so that they will be pleasing to the Lord. Why he couldn't have dedicated that space in the Bible to something useful, like a cure for cancer or a way to improve infant mortality rates, tells us a lot about the nature of the Christian/Jewish God. - Leviticus Chapters 1 through 10.
But it wasn't just animals that God wanted sacrificed. Anytime innocent men, women or children are killed because of God's anger, it must be considered to have been a human sacrifice. God accepts these "sacrifices" with glee, often killing the innocent along with the guilty. The number of instances where this happens in the Bible are staggering. - Genesis 7:21-23, 19:25, Exodus 11:5, Numbers 11:1, 15:36, 16:22, Deuteronomy 20:16, Joshua 6:21, etc. etc. etc.
After capturing all the Midianite women and children, God commands Moses to kill the women and the male children and to "keep the virgin girls alive for yourselves." Moses then proceeds to offer 32 of the 32,000 virgin girls to God as a "tribute." We know from Leviticus 27:29 that these 32 girls would not be allowed to stay alive but were offered as a heave offering (burnt on the sacrificial altar) to the Lord. - Numbers 31:17-18,40-41.
To appease God's wrath, King David had 7 sons of the dead King Saul crucified. The mother of two of these men sat in front of their bodies as they rotted in the sun for weeks. When the 7 men are offered as a sacrifice, God removes the curse he had put on the land. Who says God can't be bribed? - 2 Samuel 21:1-10.
One of God's prophets declares that "this is is the day of the Lord GOD of hosts, a day of vengeance, that he may avenge him of his adversaries: and the sword shall devour, and it shall be satiate and made drunk with their blood: for the Lord GOD of hosts hath a sacrifice in the north country by the river Euphrates." A clear reference to the fact that the slaughter of humans was considered a sacrificial offering to God. - Jeremiah 46:10.
God says that rather than punish his wayward people by killing them like he would do in earlier times, he let them become idolatrous so that they would sacrifice their firstborn children on fiery altars. The reason God gives for causing this horror is so "that they might know that I am the Lord." - Ezekiel 20:21,24-26.
Again and again, the God of the Bible promotes the killing of pagans, exhorts his believers to desert their foreign wives and children, and satisfies his blood-lust by slaughtering the innocent along with the guilty.
Even Jesus himself is a horse thief:
"As they came to the towns of Bethphage and Bethany, on the Mount of Olives, he sent two disciples ahead. "Go into that village over there," he told them, "and as you enter it, you will see a colt tied there that has never been ridden. Untie it and bring it here. If anyone asks what you are doing, just say, 'The Lord needs it.'" So they went and found the colt, just as Jesus had said. And sure enough, as they were untying it, the owners asked them, "Why are you untying our colt?" And the disciples simply replied, "The Lord needs it." So they brought the colt to Jesus and threw their garments over it for him to ride on." (Luke 19:29-35).
And if you are a true Christian, you would never consider divorce and remarriage because "Everyone who divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery, and the one who marries a woman divorced from her husband commits adultery." (Luke 16:18).
So go right ahead, call Islam a violent religion. If you're a Christian saying that, there are four fingers pointed right back at you.
Jim
The Christian God demands that blood be spilled in order for him to extend his mercy (Leviticus 17:11). Thousands of years ago, God was willing to accept the spilled blood of animals in exchange for his forgiveness, but even the deaths of billions of animals didn't provide enough blood to satiate his hunger.
The Bible tells us that humans were to be killed as an offering to this bloodthirsty God (Leviticus 27:29) even though modern believers deny that God accepted human sacrifice, that's exactly what these executions were. Even that human blood wasn't sufficient to permit God's "grace" to cover the sins of man so a half human/half God (Jesus) had to be killed.
Cain offers the fruit of the ground to God while Able sacrifices the firstborn of his flocks. God respects the blood sacrifice but not the offering of plants. - Genesis 4:2-8.
The first thing Noah does after getting off the ark is kill some of the animals that he had saved for God. The smell of burning meat softens God's heart and he promises not to flood the earth like that again. - Genesis 7:2-3, 8:19-21.
God demands that all the men of his "chosen race" mutilate their winky and spill their own blood as a form of mini-sacrifice to show their loyalty. - Genesis 17:11.
God commands Abraham to kill his son as a human sacrifice, but changes his mind at the last minute. - Genesis 22:1-2.
God sends Jephthah's daughter out to him as a sign that he is to kill her and offer her as a human sacrifice. God doesn't change his mind on this one. - Judges 11:30-39.
God goes to great lengths to describe exactly how animals are to be slaughtered, prepared, and roasted so that they will be pleasing to the Lord. Why he couldn't have dedicated that space in the Bible to something useful, like a cure for cancer or a way to improve infant mortality rates, tells us a lot about the nature of the Christian/Jewish God. - Leviticus Chapters 1 through 10.
But it wasn't just animals that God wanted sacrificed. Anytime innocent men, women or children are killed because of God's anger, it must be considered to have been a human sacrifice. God accepts these "sacrifices" with glee, often killing the innocent along with the guilty. The number of instances where this happens in the Bible are staggering. - Genesis 7:21-23, 19:25, Exodus 11:5, Numbers 11:1, 15:36, 16:22, Deuteronomy 20:16, Joshua 6:21, etc. etc. etc.
After capturing all the Midianite women and children, God commands Moses to kill the women and the male children and to "keep the virgin girls alive for yourselves." Moses then proceeds to offer 32 of the 32,000 virgin girls to God as a "tribute." We know from Leviticus 27:29 that these 32 girls would not be allowed to stay alive but were offered as a heave offering (burnt on the sacrificial altar) to the Lord. - Numbers 31:17-18,40-41.
To appease God's wrath, King David had 7 sons of the dead King Saul crucified. The mother of two of these men sat in front of their bodies as they rotted in the sun for weeks. When the 7 men are offered as a sacrifice, God removes the curse he had put on the land. Who says God can't be bribed? - 2 Samuel 21:1-10.
One of God's prophets declares that "this is is the day of the Lord GOD of hosts, a day of vengeance, that he may avenge him of his adversaries: and the sword shall devour, and it shall be satiate and made drunk with their blood: for the Lord GOD of hosts hath a sacrifice in the north country by the river Euphrates." A clear reference to the fact that the slaughter of humans was considered a sacrificial offering to God. - Jeremiah 46:10.
God says that rather than punish his wayward people by killing them like he would do in earlier times, he let them become idolatrous so that they would sacrifice their firstborn children on fiery altars. The reason God gives for causing this horror is so "that they might know that I am the Lord." - Ezekiel 20:21,24-26.
Again and again, the God of the Bible promotes the killing of pagans, exhorts his believers to desert their foreign wives and children, and satisfies his blood-lust by slaughtering the innocent along with the guilty.
Even Jesus himself is a horse thief:
"As they came to the towns of Bethphage and Bethany, on the Mount of Olives, he sent two disciples ahead. "Go into that village over there," he told them, "and as you enter it, you will see a colt tied there that has never been ridden. Untie it and bring it here. If anyone asks what you are doing, just say, 'The Lord needs it.'" So they went and found the colt, just as Jesus had said. And sure enough, as they were untying it, the owners asked them, "Why are you untying our colt?" And the disciples simply replied, "The Lord needs it." So they brought the colt to Jesus and threw their garments over it for him to ride on." (Luke 19:29-35).
And if you are a true Christian, you would never consider divorce and remarriage because "Everyone who divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery, and the one who marries a woman divorced from her husband commits adultery." (Luke 16:18).
So go right ahead, call Islam a violent religion. If you're a Christian saying that, there are four fingers pointed right back at you.
Jim