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Post by Sunshine on Oct 7, 2008 5:29:20 GMT -5
will last years coon prices affect how you set for coon this year either in number of sets or in traps used?( for example...using more snares this year in trails than last year to hoepfully catch more fur.
same question for the beaver trappers. will you set more traps for them this year or does the price for your fur on the market have no influence on how you trap?
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Post by scansy on Oct 7, 2008 6:29:25 GMT -5
I'm planning on trying for more coon this year - but not because of prices - but because I actually have a few new spots for them that look good.
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Post by samuelhasguns on Oct 7, 2008 13:16:35 GMT -5
Same here Scansy.
How much will coon be going for this year ? Anyone know yet ?
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Post by huckleberry on Oct 7, 2008 13:38:50 GMT -5
what any fur will bring this year is most likely the biggest guessin game ever. if the economy hadn't went down as it has it could have been a great year....now with the world economy as it is.................personaly....I don't see anyone buying fur at all. Just my guess in the game.
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Post by samuelhasguns on Oct 7, 2008 15:48:51 GMT -5
WOW
I hope your not right huck.
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Post by tctrppr on Oct 7, 2008 16:50:46 GMT -5
We may set a little harder for them, but we're not going to go whole hog and buy a bunch of specialized traps for them. Just use what we've got, mainly. Some grizzes and 1.5s. May try a couple of coon cuffs. sure would hate to buy 3 or 4 doz. grizzes at over $200.00 a dozen and the coon market tank like it did in the mid eighties around here.
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Post by huckleberry on Oct 7, 2008 18:00:24 GMT -5
one year we got on the average over 20 bucks a coon...........the next year.......25 cents if it had ANY damage at all........6 bucks tops.......watched a guy burn over 200 coon on the spot. I am deeply concerned that is about to happen again .
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Post by tctrppr on Oct 7, 2008 21:40:04 GMT -5
Yep, Huck,
Ive seen one furbuyer that has held coon frozen for three years in three full-size walk-in coolers before the market settled and he could sell at a profit. I've also seen country buyers buy 200-250 coon in a day, and the price drop $4.00 across the board. The only thing predictable about the fur market is it's unpredictability.
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Post by Sunshine on Oct 8, 2008 5:50:48 GMT -5
i think the global economy is suffering from fallout from the American economical failure going on right now and i think prices will drop by half of a normal year which for us would be a 75% drop from last year.
Bt we're still gonna trap just as hard because while the money is part of it, just going is a daily thrill.
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Post by scansy on Oct 8, 2008 6:34:15 GMT -5
I ain't in this for the money so ultimately the prices won't impact my time/effort. This is purely a hobby for me and a good excuse to be outdoors every day. I did meet a guy a couple of weeks ago who has a fly tying business and he will be happy to take (some of) the furs off my hands that are damaged. They may not make a good coat with a rubbed spot, but still plenty of fur for tying.
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Post by Sunshine on Oct 8, 2008 10:32:16 GMT -5
thats great. we all have some low quality furs that we need to sell and its good you found a buyer for them. it helps himand it thelps you.
FYI...alot of the fly tiers like squirrel tails too. here they sell for .30 each. it isnt alot but if you get very many of them it adds up quicker than you think. he might be interested in some of those if you have them.
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Post by scansy on Oct 8, 2008 10:44:00 GMT -5
I asked him about squirrels and he said he has a ton - cuts them off roadkills in his neighborhood.
See, it's not just trappers who pick up road kill.
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Post by Sunshine on Oct 8, 2008 10:56:22 GMT -5
i never thought it was.
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Post by tctrppr on Oct 8, 2008 16:07:30 GMT -5
I think possibly(JMHO) that the graders are going to grade a lot tighter this fall/winter, and not be as generous. Most fur will still sell as it did last year, with the exception of maybe coon. Our buyer says sell often, when it comes to your coon. If they're good, sell em.' Don't hold out for a better price with the local and regional buyers. The big auction houses may be another matter. Time will tell. JMHO, others may disagree.
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Post by Sunshine on Oct 14, 2008 5:29:41 GMT -5
from what i heard last year at the WV fur sale they graded the fur hard anyway. one hole made it a section 3..not damaged and i kow of one buyer who cleaned up buying the section 3s and then they graded way better at NAFA.
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Post by tctrppr on Oct 14, 2008 15:56:42 GMT -5
Seen local buyers do the same thing. They did grade hard at the sale, for the past 2 years on coon and 'yotes, from what I saw.
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Post by coonripper on Oct 15, 2008 1:10:54 GMT -5
I think its going to be a tough grade this year. and good luck if you sell green in the carcass. You may not get rid of them for much at all
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Post by warcraftjr on Oct 18, 2008 22:28:43 GMT -5
im pretty worried with the way the market is.but. unlike my dad. trapping aint just for profit. its also for fun.So even if im getting ultra low prices or if i have to hold back on selling for a while. im still gunna trap coon.
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Post by huckleberry on Oct 23, 2008 16:09:36 GMT -5
One little beacon of light.
Talked to a guy yesterday that told me of a buyer from way back in the 30's...the depression era. he told this guy that the better fur buyers then still bought alot of fur at a decent price. Of course back then i guess a nickle for a coon was about all anyone could give. Anyway, it seems those buyers that knew what they were doing bought at the best prices they could......KNOWING the market would go back up. They made HUGE bucks off the fur they bought.
Will that happen now? Makes me wanna look at the older/ established buyers.....those that have been there done that.
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