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Post by Sunshine on Aug 5, 2007 18:05:29 GMT -5
How high do you put the bottom of the loop from the ground for foxes, coons, and coyotes? ive never snared before and am gonna give it a shot this season. any info would be appreciated.
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Post by bill1306 on Aug 5, 2007 18:21:33 GMT -5
On coons I use a 4 or 5 inch loop about 2 inches off of the ground. Coyotes a 14-16 inch loop about 12 inches high off of the ground. I use fast snares and I don't mind them getting one leg through the snare before it closes on them. I think it kills them faster that way.
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Post by possumskinner on Aug 5, 2007 18:26:50 GMT -5
here in va we have been restricted to a maximum height of twelve inches (ground to top of snare loop)
Fox -
5 - 5 1/2 inch loop ... 5 inches off the trail
Coons
5 1/2 - 6 inch loop approximately 4ish + inches off the ground
ol' newt can get ya straight on this ... he's the man when it comes to snares ... in my opinion
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Post by Earl8656 on Aug 5, 2007 18:28:30 GMT -5
Depending on the situation and what the target is dictates the size. On a log orwhere the critter has to duck makes it more universal, for coons, I usually set about a 6" loop about 3-4 inches off the ground, foxes, usually about an 8"loop with the bottom 8" off the ground. not enough coyotes for me to set specifically for them.
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Post by bill1306 on Aug 5, 2007 18:54:47 GMT -5
I think most of our coons around here travel with their noses within two inches of the ground most of the time. The coyotes run with their noses up to smell for food and their head is up to spot their next meal.
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Post by possumskinner on Aug 5, 2007 20:20:59 GMT -5
i agree ... most coons i see moving along trails while deer hunting are nose low butt high ...
now i set way more 220's when it comes to catching coon vs snares ... my 220s are set about two fingers or about two inches off the ground ... when it comes to snares i like the bottom of the loop a lil higher than the bottom of a coni ... seems like i had a lil better hookup
but like i said i set a lot more conis than snares ... i'm always open to improving my coon and fox snaring methods ... but what i'm doing ... it works for me
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Post by Newt on Aug 5, 2007 20:23:42 GMT -5
Heres some measurments to be used as a place to start. Adjust your snare to fit the trail. Gray fox- 4 1/2"-5" loop 4 1/2" - 5" off the walking surface Red Fox-8" Loop 8" off the walking surface Coyote- 12" loop 12" off the walking surface Coon - any thing from the Gray fox snare set to the Red Fox set Rember you trail will determan on how high and what size loop you should set.
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Post by ADC on Aug 10, 2007 17:28:04 GMT -5
I set ALL my coon snares at least 7" off the surface of the trail unless they are on a VERY steep hill, then I lower it to 5" off the trail. I use a 7-8" loop as well. This set up gets me all big coons and red fox. It allows small coons, possums, and skunks to go right under the loop and let it fall back into place for the next coon/fox by. This is in Iowa though, in other parts of the country you big coons are my dinks so you'll need a lower loop probably.
If I were setting for red fox only I'd use an 8" loop set 8-10" off the trail. (no greys here)
Coyotes get an 11" loop set 12" off the trail.
Like Newt said, This is just a place to start, situations will call for slight variations. One thing to try though, if your getting knocked down empty snares, raise your loops up a couple inches. Often I find its an extra large coon or fox going over the set.
Of all the coons I snared last season, only maybe 15 were XL or smaller, the rest were all XXL or bigger and I only snared one possum and zero skunks. I also sold my fur buyer almost 1/2 of all the redfox he bought last fall.
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Post by k9 on Aug 10, 2007 23:44:35 GMT -5
To add to Jatme's comment here in Iowa we are restricted to an 11 inch loop near water, an 8 inch one anywhere else. If legal, I would prefer a big loop, like 14 inches. It not what a coyote "can" get his head into it's what he "will" put his head into that is most important. Setting a bigger loop for the coyotes you want a fast lock. The key is trying to get the lock etc up out of the coyote's face and line of sight, which is why I like bigger loops.
A travelling coyote in tall grass or brush will walk or trot with his head held up high. A travelling coyote in open type areas, such as walking or trotting down a cow path in a grazed pasture, will put his nose down to the ground and hold his head low.
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Post by Sunshine on Aug 16, 2007 14:40:32 GMT -5
ty guys.
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Post by Earl8656 on Nov 25, 2007 22:02:37 GMT -5
Good info, and ADC, u are exactly right about the size of your coons and the size of ours.
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Post by fowlhunter on Oct 12, 2008 18:14:17 GMT -5
What about bobcats? Do you guys not snare them?
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Post by Sunshine on Oct 13, 2008 5:27:11 GMT -5
anyone snare cats that can answer his question?
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Post by coonripper on Oct 16, 2008 1:50:24 GMT -5
No kitties in our county. Well not legal to catch anyway. Im guessing Newt will see this and get an answer to it though
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Post by Newt on Oct 20, 2008 19:45:42 GMT -5
Wants the question ? Do I snare bobcats ? Yes 1/6" 1x19 cable or better yet 3/64" 1x19 8" loop 8" off the walking surface
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Post by ksboy2 on Jul 30, 2009 19:26:02 GMT -5
cats...
wide disparity among trails and crawl throughs.....
pinch the trail down and use a small loop and try to get them down...they are more valunerable to your snare if they are lower to the ground
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Post by Earl8656 on Aug 9, 2009 20:49:12 GMT -5
On cats I usually try to set about 8 inches off the ground, with a duck stick above it...that way the deer will jump it and not bother it.....we have a lot of deer......as evident by our season this year of doe days every day with a limit of 2 a day.......Shucks if you buy enough bonus tags you can legally kill about 160 deer if you bowhunt and muzzleloader hunt.
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