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Post by blakcoyote on Dec 8, 2007 12:49:37 GMT -5
Here's one way to trap when snow gets deep,got most of this idea from Mchewk,and tweaked it a little for myself. First you gotta shovel out a nice area so you have something to work with. Next you chip out a trap bed,I went to a 10# maul with a sharpened piece of car leaf spring welded to the back end,makes opening up the ground a breeze,well almost.lol Next I'll put a layer of calcium chloride in the bottom of the bed,then I'll add dry dirt with anti-freeze mixed in. Next I'll anchor the trap with a cable stake down through the center of the bed,and like in my other posts,hollow out a depression so your chain lays nicely under the trap then bed your trap making sure it's solid and no tipping.Then sprinkle some anti-freeze around the trap. You'll also notice in the above pic a rebar stake in the ground,this is my lure hole,I make them using rebar to make the holes,you can make one or two or three if you want for different attractants.. Now this is where I veer off,instead of finishing off the set with a pan cover and dry dirt,I make sure the dirt is level with the trap jaws,then I'll cover everything and the surrounding shoveled area with straw chaf or hay chaf,the fine stuff.It stays unfrozen,and being fine less likely to clog trap jaws.I make sure the chaf is level across the trap bed,no high spots over the trap. You'll also notice snow mounded up as the backing,but what I'll do is cover it up with hay chaff along with covering my lure holes.It makes it look like a hay mound or a partial one anyway. Well,that's one way to deal with deep snow,whats also nice,once you got these made in the deeper snow,is you'll beable to find them after another big dumping of snow,just look for the big 6'-8' snow crater. Hope you enjoy.Hopefully catch pics to follow soon.
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Post by merdy1 on Dec 8, 2007 15:47:11 GMT -5
another great post blackyote..thanks for sharing .
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Post by firewalker on Dec 9, 2007 0:17:13 GMT -5
Blackcoyote thanks for sharing
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Post by scansy on Dec 10, 2007 11:30:50 GMT -5
I would guess that a dug up spot in the snow has a lot of attraction for critters.
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Post by Sunshine on Dec 10, 2007 11:37:56 GMT -5
another excellent exapmple as to why you were picked as Alpha Male..excellent post:)
youre right scansy, it does
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Post by samuelhasguns on Dec 11, 2007 14:28:41 GMT -5
Nice post. But that set wont catch all the coyotes in my area. Some would be spooked to see a torn up area. A lot of times after I make a catch. I need to set another trap outside of the catch circle before I can make another catch..
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Post by Sunshine on Dec 13, 2007 9:16:01 GMT -5
but if ya hadnt caught one ther before, wouldnt they come in and investigate it as a curiosity?
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Post by samuelhasguns on Dec 13, 2007 9:36:07 GMT -5
90% of the coyotes, YES. There will always be a select few that keep there distance.
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Post by Sunshine on Dec 13, 2007 10:13:59 GMT -5
pk, thought so
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Post by Earl8656 on Dec 13, 2007 18:14:20 GMT -5
anyoe who can catch 90% better pat themselves on the back and move on.....cause the yotes will die from old age before the other 10% is caught ;D
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Post by samuelhasguns on Dec 13, 2007 20:29:14 GMT -5
Earl - my intellect goes a lot higher then 90 percent. So I can't comprehend why someone wouldn't want to harvest the maximum amount of animals from one location. On the other hand. I hate to say it......But your right about the coyotes dieing of old age. Unless caught in a snare ! I take nothing away from this post..I was well informative and well appreciated . Thank you for posting Blakcoyte, Samuel
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Post by Earl8656 on Dec 14, 2007 5:32:26 GMT -5
What kind and size trap do you prefer for these sets?
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Post by samuelhasguns on Dec 14, 2007 10:11:46 GMT -5
That looks like a MB 650. Outstanding trap for that situation.
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Post by blakcoyote on Dec 15, 2007 23:34:27 GMT -5
No offense taken Sam.I understand what your saying when it comes to remakes and catch circles and this would fit in that catagory,there will be some that will shy away.Fox on the other hand from what I've seen over the years are different,it doesn't seem to bother them,same goes for catch circles with them,as long as theres fox in the area,you can still keep getting them in remakes.I use to be of the mindset that it was pert near impossible to catch a coyote in remakes,but over time I've found different,alot of times there just a big fox. One of my biggest problems with the snow sets,especially in the open areas,is the depression you make by shoveling out that snow also collects snow as the wind blows and often times that snow is hard packed drift,you could stand where the trap is and not trip it.If I wait a couple days after a storm moves through before making these sets I can cut down on the drifting because the wind will settle down some,atleast until the next front comes through. Right now I only have a little over a handful of sets out like this right now,and there set near bait stations,just biding my time until the cable restraint season opens on the 1st of Jan.,then it'll be cable all the way.
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Post by blakcoyote on Dec 15, 2007 23:35:43 GMT -5
Forgot,yep thats an MB650,I use them or 4 coiled #3 Bridgers full mods.
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Post by Earl8656 on Dec 16, 2007 2:01:47 GMT -5
I have used a leaf blower to blow away the snow from an area, doesn't work to well with crusty snow though
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Post by huckleberry on Dec 16, 2007 11:27:37 GMT -5
Great post Black.......that is very similar to what I use if I deal with snow. Depneding on the depth of the snow I may set the trap in the snow however, and just toss some straw or chaff all around the area. If the trap is bedded in the snow itself, I use baggies to keep it from freezing up. and most of the time I use a drag instead of stakes in snow. I have even used boat anchors as a drag and backin combination. When the snow hits here, the yotes get a little dumber. lol
As far as remakes, that is one reason I sue the drags. But young yotes are not a problem to catch in a remade set. The older wiser ones can be. What I ahve seen though is that they will follow a drag line. If ya can figure which way the caught animal will head after caught with the drag ya can sometimes make a set in that direction and catch the others. not a high % deal, but it does work at times. Ya at least have more sets out which is always a good thing.
One good thing about snow, ya can really see how yotes or fox for that matter work an area. Pay attention to thier movements in different terrains and ya can learn how to catch them.
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Post by tctrppr on Dec 16, 2007 23:11:27 GMT -5
"One good thing about snow, ya can really see how yotes or fox for that matter work an area. Pay attention to thier movements in different terrains and ya can learn how to catch them. "
Snow can tell you an awful lot. It can humble/frustrate you, too. When you're a beginner, you don't realize how many walk-bys/refusals you have on bare ground - 'till there's a snow on the ground. You can learn a lot from them, too.
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Post by Earl8656 on Dec 16, 2007 23:52:10 GMT -5
A lot of good advise on this thread.
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