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Post by Sunshine on Nov 14, 2008 9:42:19 GMT -5
any of y'all use dogs to hunt deer?
is it legal in your state?
here if we got a dog that runs deer ya whip its butt but i know in VA thats how they hunt them in most areas.
what is the benefit to hunting deer with dogs? is it that the hunter only has to set on his butt by the road in his truck and then wait for the dog to run em out to him? this way they dint have to do any work to get the deer?
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Post by samuelhasguns on Nov 14, 2008 9:45:47 GMT -5
There are a lot of rednecks that shoot dogs for running deer here. Pa guys take there deer hunting serious. lol
You can't do it here. And the consequences are huge.
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Post by scansy on Nov 14, 2008 11:07:40 GMT -5
We used to hunt rabbits with beagles a lot. Worst thing that could happen to a beagle was it starts running deer. Sammy's right ( ) - hunters here in PA take their deer hunting serious. Some of them hunt during the two week rifle season and that's their entire outdoors experience for the year - so if they don't see a BUNCH of deer, they get mad.
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Post by samuelhasguns on Nov 14, 2008 11:51:38 GMT -5
They hunt year round where i am at scansy. But i know what you mean man. ;D
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Post by Sunshine on Nov 14, 2008 12:37:21 GMT -5
deer running dogs are shot here also.
if you have one that runs deer youd better break it of running them or shoot it.if you do neither and someone else sees it running dogs, theyll shoot it.
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Post by samuelhasguns on Nov 14, 2008 12:41:28 GMT -5
deer running dogs ? Now thats a new one. LOL
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Post by scansy on Nov 14, 2008 13:07:58 GMT -5
LOL - I can see it now - dog running along, yipping in fear....
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Post by samuelhasguns on Nov 14, 2008 13:16:49 GMT -5
Ruf ruf
HAHAHAHAHHAAAHAAAaAA
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Post by trapper82 on Nov 16, 2008 8:16:40 GMT -5
My 2 cents. I don't think it is correct to condemn another way of hunting. Legal, that is. Have any of you been on a hunt where dogs are used? I have not and it is illegal here as well, but I will not speak ill of it myself. From what I have heard, it is not like sitting on your butt waiting for the deer to come waltzing by. I sit on my butt when I hunt deer. Whether in a tree or in a blind. I don't really think a deer is going to "circle" like a bunny in front of beagles. If we are going to condemn that (deer with dogs), shouldn't we do the same with coons, bears, rabbits, birds, etc?
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Post by scansy on Nov 16, 2008 8:57:24 GMT -5
I'm with you 82.
My problem with the beagle chasing the dogs is it takes a looong time to get the dog to come back. Sometimes several hours. Deer do circle like a rabbit, but run much bigger circles. Have had more than one day hunting ruined because of a dog that kept going and going and going in hot pursuit of a deer.
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Post by Sunshine on Nov 16, 2008 8:59:46 GMT -5
My 2 cents. I don't think it is correct to condemn another way of hunting. Legal, that is. Have any of you been on a hunt where dogs are used? I have not and it is illegal here as well, but I will not speak ill of it myself. From what I have heard, it is not like sitting on your butt waiting for the deer to come waltzing by. I sit on my butt when I hunt deer. Whether in a tree or in a blind. I don't really think a deer is going to "circle" like a bunny in front of beagles. If we are going to condemn that (deer with dogs), shouldn't we do the same with coons, bears, rabbits, birds, etc? yes i have been in VA and i didnt see the thrill in waitin long 17 while the dogs ran out a deer in a aclearing for a bunch of liqoured up yahoos to shoot. but to each his own. just my .02. my point with this post was how regional differences change hunting techniques. how one area would shoot a deer runnin dog and another region would think it was the best thing going.
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Post by trapper82 on Nov 16, 2008 10:00:42 GMT -5
I understand that and that is what I thought you meant. But this threw me "what is the benefit to hunting deer with dogs? is it that the hunter only has to set on his butt by the road in his truck and then wait for the dog to run em out to him? this way they dint have to do any work to get the deer?".
Kinda like people who say to me that how is trapping fair? You put out the trap and along comes the animal and gets caught. How much work is that? We all know different because we do it. What do we qualify as "work" to get a deer? To someone who still hunts, a sit on a stand hunter may be lazy. To someone who stand hunts, he/she may think driving deer is a lazy way to hunt. I could say that people who can drive to there trap sets are lazy because I have to walk most of my lines. Of course I do NOT think that, it is just a point. Now I have 4 cents in.
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Post by warrior on Aug 28, 2009 17:57:26 GMT -5
I grew up hunting deer with hounds. Strange as it sounds though I have never shot a deer in front of the hounds. Contrary to what many may think there is more to running hounds than parking your butt on the side of the road and waiting for the deer to run you over. Deer are still deer running or not and they still have their survival instincts. Many is the time I've seen deer lay still and let the dogs run on past them after some young doe that don't know any better. I have also watched deer run almost to the stand line and double back into cover or use the creek bottoms, cane brakes or other spots not covered by a stander to cross the stand line. I love running deer with dogs and have killed many good deer that way but again not in front of the hounds. I have always volunteered to be a driver and go in with the dogs. How do you think I know about the deer that lay down until the dogs pass or double back. Truth be told in all the years we hunted with dogs I don't think we equaled the body count we racked up after we made the decision to bushwhack them from the trees. Running hounds was as much about the comraderie of the hunt as driving deer required numbers and the hunts were not day long solo sits in the treetops. A typical day of driving deer went like this. Up before sun up, some one would have coffee on and someone else would be working on breakfast. A big breakfast enjoyed by all with lots of hee hawing, especially of the younger folks. Take your time, as there was no rush to be in the woods before the roosters crowed. Let the deer walk some more and lay down some good trails. While the young fellows are over loading the dogs the grown ups plan the days drives. Once the plan is in place everyone gets briefed with the always stern admonition to stay where you are put out with no wandering around. Safe directions of fire are explained with the law of the drive reiterated, no firing down the stand line. Everyone piles into the trucks and away we go. As the trucks ease down the stand line stops are made at every likely deer crossing and a stander gets out. Good lucks are exchanged and he is told where to expect the deer to come and the exact spot he is to stand and to stay right there until he is picked up. No stops are made closer than 100 yards apart and buckshot is the rule, rifles not allowed and slugs are frowned upon. Everyone is told when the drive would start and to be in place by then. The trucks make it to the place where the dogs will be cut. Only the drivers and the dogs by now. The drivers are the guys that really know the place, they know just where the deer are bedded and will lead the hounds to those hidey holes. As the hounds are lead into the woods a blast of the horn, cow not truck, let's all know that the hunt is on. The hounds are cut and pointed in the right direction and all is quiet save for the rustling of the hounds seeking a track. The first dog opens, a quick questioning bark, then the second adds his opinion and then the third. The race is on! the hounds pile in while the drivers whoop and shout encouragement. Hounds not heard are scolded and told to get in there. Wait, we got a second race! The hounds are pushing foward and the drivers follow. By now the standers can hear the race coming to them. They listen with beating hearts as the music grows louder waiting, looking, listening. A shot rings out over on the left but no where near the dogs. Someone got lucky and caught the buck slipping out almost crawling with his head held low. One for the meat pole. The dogs meanwhile have gotten down in the swamp and the deer has gained a step on them. The track breaks down. The other race is hard and fast going out of hearing down the ridge. One of the drivers connect on a nice one that gets up under his feet that the dogs missed. A flurry of shots echos from down the ridge aways. the drivers go in the swamp after the hounds and realize this one has won for this day and the dogs are gathered up and lead out the other side of the swamp. The horn is blown and the hounds head in. This drive is in the books but wait a shot and then a second from back at the trucks. The fourteen year old left on his first ever stand just took the best buck to come off the place this season. As the trucks make their way back up the stand line questions are asked, who shot. Jokes are exchanged as to just who is going to be missing a shirt tail today. Stories are told of the blur that got past them or the does that trotted by. Back at the clubhouse the deer are hung and butchered each successful hunter gets his backstraps and the rest is placed in even piles. The blindfolded hunter designates the piles to the receiving hunters. The fourteen year old proudly wears the blood on his face and will not wash for a week. And the guy standing the ridge has donated his shirt tail to the collection that hangs in the clubhouse.
Sad to say. I have not seen a face bloodied or a shirt tail cut in years. I am afraid that my children may never.
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Post by Sunshine on Aug 28, 2009 22:08:43 GMT -5
Contrary to what many may think there is more to running hounds than parking your butt on the side of the road and waiting for the deer to run you over.
yeah, dont forget the beer, LOL ;D
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Post by warrior on Aug 29, 2009 12:34:50 GMT -5
yeah, dont forget the beer, LOL ;D Not around my southern baptist family. Back then alcoholic beverages did not exist in my world.
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Post by Sunshine on Aug 29, 2009 20:00:56 GMT -5
too bad your values didnt rub off on the VA deer hunters ive been around,lol
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Post by HC Trapper on Aug 31, 2009 17:39:27 GMT -5
Dogs for deer is not my type of deer hunting. There are still dog hunting clubs around here. I do my thing and they do their thing. The only problem i have with dog hunters is they usually let their dogs run over property lines to others hunting leases. {dogs don't know property lines}. More then once I'd be sitting in a stand and a dang pack of dogs will come hauling butt by. Not the best thing for still hunting. Dog hunters need to do more about cutting there dogs off at the property line! Other then that, I Live and Let live. Its the Redneck Way! ;D
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Post by BlueRidgeTrapper on Sept 1, 2009 0:35:31 GMT -5
I do know, for a FACT that they HATE when ya kill a deer from in front of their dogs...They said it was "their deer"...I chuckled as I gutted her ;D
Needless to say I'm not exactly Mr. Popular with the dog hunters here...oh wait, yeah I am...they all hate me ;D
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Post by BlueRidgeTrapper on Sept 1, 2009 0:36:43 GMT -5
And then there's the bear hunters...oh god don't get me started.
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Post by Sunshine on Sept 2, 2009 10:15:08 GMT -5
why dont ya like bear huters BRT? ;D
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Post by BlueRidgeTrapper on Sept 5, 2009 4:45:28 GMT -5
why dont ya like bear huters BRT? ;D
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Post by rszwieg on Sept 5, 2009 9:59:19 GMT -5
I wish they'd let us use dogs to track wounded deer. Dogs would come it mighty handy sometimes.
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Post by warrior on Sept 6, 2009 20:23:49 GMT -5
Here in GA it is not only legal to track wounded game with a dog but it is highly encouraged with the names of dog handlers published in the regulation booklet.
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Post by Sunshine on Sept 8, 2009 14:04:26 GMT -5
is anybody with a dog that will run a deer considered a dog handler or are there permits involved?
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Post by plankton on Sept 12, 2009 11:12:07 GMT -5
is anybody with a dog that will run a deer considered a dog handler or are there permits involved? The answer to your question is NO. ;D
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