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Post by spade on Jan 21, 2011 18:00:51 GMT -5
sold the following today, mostly to make room for the rest
66-3x=====20.00 31-2x=====18.00 12-1x=====16.00 8-S/Dam=== 8.00
Season gonna close here in a few days, and the cold weather has locked up most all the coon, did get 8 this am, 1 had just started rubbing.
Still gonna have 137 coon to ship, and over 100 beaver, when were all done, good season all around. Don't expect much on the beaver looking at the market, but who knows.
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Post by Sunshine on Jan 21, 2011 23:15:12 GMT -5
thats good on those coon.
word ive heard is the coon market is getting pretty hot.
i hope theyre right.
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Post by spade on Jan 22, 2011 4:25:09 GMT -5
I believe your right Sunshine, buyer told me he has had 2 buyers wanting 10,000 ooons, and he didn't hesitate buying what I considered our worst hides, early trapped, off-color, nappy fur, etc.
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Post by Sunshine on Jan 23, 2011 10:07:51 GMT -5
i hope so cause our coon will do good cause we got alot of off color coon.
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Post by trapper7 on Jan 24, 2011 14:58:33 GMT -5
I think the coon market will be good. As I mentioned before, the guy that picks up fur at my place for NAFA said he was hearing prices in the high $30s for the bigger coon.
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Post by Sunshine on Jan 25, 2011 12:39:24 GMT -5
that should mean we'll average 10 or so on ours 7 and thatd be great.
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Post by huckleberry on Jan 25, 2011 20:18:52 GMT -5
that should mean we'll average 10 or so on ours 7 and thatd be great.
Holy Moly Jumpin catfish.........How in the world can anyone say 10 bucks a coon would be great?
Now Sunny, I know you are relatively new to trapping and selling fur. However, I and many others that have trapped for awhile can tell you, that is LESS then we got over 30 years ago. Even 40 years ago a coon would not sell for that little of money.
I have said this for years. If those of us that trap and hunt would STOP GIVING IT AWAY we would all see the prices go UP. Instead everyone says that is all NAFA is gonna get for it so we have to sell it for nothing. STOP !!!!!!!! Set a price for your fur and DON"T SELL IT FOR LESS!!!!!!
I have talked to state orgs for years trying to get them to do this. Begged them to set a decent price and ask all their members to not sell below that price. Might as well beat my head against the wall. IMO right now may be the time to get this type thing going too. From what I am hearing the overall catch is way down. They are going to jump some in prices. I would bet if everyone said here is what we want for this fur...take it or leave it. They WOULD take it!!!!!
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Post by Sunshine on Jan 27, 2011 14:35:16 GMT -5
you havent seen our coon Huck...a 10.00 average is great for ours. we have a 5 colored coon.
bad bad bad yellow.
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Post by trapper7 on Jan 27, 2011 16:21:43 GMT -5
Another thing that raises prices on fur is a shortage. It seems when fur prices jump up, trappers come out of the woodwork. Then, there's an abundance of fur and prices fall.
This year, the NAFA guy said coon were all sold out and they expect a low harvest just because there aren't as many trappers out this year. Not as many trappers due to low prices for the past few years and high gas prices.
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Post by trapper7 on Jan 27, 2011 16:28:07 GMT -5
One other point to make is that if prices are too low on a certain animal, trappers won't target it. Right now, beaver are very low pricewise and a pain to put up in comparison to some of the others.
Usually, when fur is dropped off at my place, there are over 100 beaver pelts. This year there were 9 and 7 of those were mine. I'd guess the price will rise in the next few years on beaver just because either nobody's trapping them or if they are, they aren't putting them up.
Usually there are 30-40 trappers dropping off fur at my place. This year there were only 12.
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Post by Sunshine on Jan 28, 2011 9:40:02 GMT -5
This year, the NAFA guy said coon were all sold out and they expect a low harvest just because there aren't as many trappers out this year. Not as many trappers due to low prices for the past few years and high gas prices. 7 thas one thing i hate about NAFA...they claim clearances when it isnt true. maybe theyre sold out of fresh goods or certain sections of good but we ourselves got 44 coon left anf everyone i know that ships any amount of fur has coon left. a dealer here has 3 000 coon up there right now. the guy in iowa jerry knows has 2500 rats still up there. and those are a better sectin of coon than we have. NAFA ios not clearanced on coon. not saying they arent gonna sell for a lot but all coon arent clearanced right now..that im 1000% sure of. theres also a big buyer of fur out there...or there was if hes already shipped em to NAFA and not groeny that was setting on a quarter million rats....hes on the east coast. these are rats hes purchased and held waiting for the market...and you knw what that means...........
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Post by Sunshine on Jan 28, 2011 9:40:38 GMT -5
all sections of coon are not clearanced...
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Post by huckleberry on Jan 28, 2011 17:24:27 GMT -5
NAFA NAFA NAFA........I was told when they started up they would bring the market down. Almost to the exact year it happened. AS usual that old man was right.
You can forget supply and demand when it comes to fur. It only pertains to an extent. They use it as a way to keep prices low on certain items. But that is by design. Look at what they do year after year.
Within the last ten years otter went sky high for a few years. then dumped. Grey fox was the fur to catch for a few years, then they dumped. Even coon were high as heck for a few years. then what happened? yep, they dumped too. This year they are claiming rats will be the high dollar seller. If you call 7-8 bucks a high dollar fur. Within 2-3 years rats won't be worth .50 cents.
They have done this time and time again. All the while trappers and hunters let them do as they please. They whine about it all the time, but when have they ever stood up and said enough is enough?
Only way fur will ever be a money making deal again is when the trappers and hunters unite and set their own prices. Will that ever happen? I don't see it happening anytime soon.
Maybe when our economy totally goes down the toilet and people can't afford to heat their homes they will buy some fur to stay warm. Who knows?
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Post by Sunshine on Jan 29, 2011 4:03:55 GMT -5
Huck...if you shipped your fur, youd make more money in the long run.
you dont like NAFA and thats ok but dont knock em cause alot of us have made good money shipping them fur.
Huck...no one will buy itif they dont get the cost in the finished product down...
ever see wages over seas? tell me how they CAN afford a 5,000.00 coat...and thats cheap and thats where most of the coats go................
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Post by huckleberry on Jan 29, 2011 12:04:44 GMT -5
Oh really? You may think so because that is where you ahve always sold your fur. But believe me, I can sell locally and make more then I can shipping it there.
Some, maybe even most, local buyers turn around and sell what they buy to the auctions. Then of course they would buy at a lesser price then they think they will get at auction.
However there are still some buyers that have their own markets and they are willing to give a better price to meet their demands. Wasn't Groney beating the auctions last year? I really don't know that is why I am asking.
If you really want to get into this we can. I have been around long enough to have seen what happened.
The finished goods price is BS. As with everything else, the price of fur products are adjusted for the area or region they are selling in.
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Post by Sunshine on Jan 29, 2011 21:17:38 GMT -5
Huck...you have better fur and mor eoptiond for as better price than we do... our coon compared to coon out your way are crap.
jerry shipped for over 20 yrs and sold in the country before that so if you want...yes we can do this.
hes sold fur at state auctions, country buyers and auctions and bout every other avenue and he has yet to find anyone that can consistently pay more for his fur than he gets at NAFA.
Huck, have you ever sold enough fur in a season to buy a new 21,000.00 pickup...off the lot...paid in full? he did..the most recent time was in 2006.he has .......
why si it that fur is judged on regions instead of the quality of the fur?
i here southern fur is crap so much...mostly from people whove never seenit.
there is a higher percenatage of low grade (bout 1?3 low grades in coon and beaver) but the other 2/3rds will sell for as high a price as youll get anywhere else.
you ever seen a grey fox from down south?
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Post by spade on Feb 1, 2011 4:24:33 GMT -5
I know I have shipped fur for several years and I'm always pleased with the price I get, which is normally alot higher than I get at a country buyer, which has to be that way so that the country buyer makes some kind of money so he can keep operating. I sell to the local buyer just so as to support there business, and it's always good to have a backup system for my fur.
7--Yep beaver prices are low, but you would not believe the number of calls I've received from the locals here, giving me sole permission to trap on there property, if I got rid of there beaver problem, because other trappers wouldn't trap them as it wasn't worth it. It sure has opened up a whole new areas for me to get into.
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