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Post by trapper7 on Sept 2, 2011 11:27:22 GMT -5
Six months and over a billion dollars later, the disturbing part of this war is do we actually know who were are helping? Are we just assuming it's honest Libyans wanting to rid their country of a brutual dictator?
We don't even know what kind of government will emerge. Some of the rebel commanders have told the European Press that they either support Al-Qaeda or are associated with that group. Many of them are also associated with the Muslim Brotherhood.
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Post by japflapper on Sept 2, 2011 11:43:55 GMT -5
Ive thought all along this is a muslim extremist take over of the middle east. They know right now we don't have a president so as I predicted all the kooks around the world will make hay while they can. I imagine in time it will be shown we actually helped our enemy's take control of all these country's and it's going to be interesting to see what happens when they cut off our flow of oil since we have shut down our own source's for it!
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Post by trapper7 on Sept 2, 2011 13:45:27 GMT -5
That makes sense to me. $4.00 a gallon will seem cheap. Blame the anointed one and his environmentalist buddies for not allowing us to drill on our own soil and build refineries.
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Post by haus on Sept 2, 2011 20:21:33 GMT -5
I can solve the muslim extremist problem without firing a shot. Stop all immigration from those countries and secure our borders. When a VISA expires, hunt them down and deport those foreigners. No more anchor babies. Someone has a baby here, deport the parent and the baby back where they are from. Tada!
Open immigration to the worlds best scientists, engineers, doctors, etc....
And finally, do away with the cuban swim team. Drop there butts back off in cuba each and every time they swim across.
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Post by japflapper on Sept 3, 2011 8:40:48 GMT -5
Alot of the bomb makers and terrorist are scientis, engineers, etc. Didn't KSM become an engineer? Why they knew they needed BIG jets FULL of FUEL to have the best chance to bring down the towers and inflict as much damage as possible.
I imagine one day though haus you'll get your way and we'll come back home and bury our heads in the sand and pretend the war is over, till we get hit with an even bigger disaster than 9/11.
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Post by haus on Sept 3, 2011 17:37:02 GMT -5
;D The wars are almost over. The focus on the debt ceiling should finally end it. When they cut people off food stamps and unemployment so they can continue the war, I imagine the uproar will be defeaning. 50% of Americans pay no taxes, but when you take away what they don't pay for, they will put down the bag of chips and take to the streets.
KSM was an engineer, but as with most engineers and scientists they don't tend to blow themselves up. So they need run of the mill folks to carry out their attacks.
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Post by japflapper on Sept 3, 2011 18:20:11 GMT -5
Cutting food stamps and welfare isn't going to dent the debt! Shutting down both wars won't dent the debt!
Gov. is too bloated, need to start shutting down useless 'non essential' gov. office's left and right for starters. Then go from there.
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Post by haus on Sept 4, 2011 7:49:22 GMT -5
We have lost 13 staff members in a year and have no authority to hire. Cuts are being made. When the public is mad they are not getting service I guess we can tell them, sorry, bailouts and foreign wars were more important.
The problem is the non-essential programs will continue but all departments will pay the price instead.
Cutting programs and ending wars will not dent the debt, however it will keep it from rising. No need to dig that hole any deeper.
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Post by japflapper on Sept 4, 2011 8:59:58 GMT -5
The problem is the non-essential programs will continue but all departments will pay the price instead.
I know, see it where I work already as well! Oh and im not getting a raise for 2 years, might be worth something IF I got paid what a Congressman gets paid but my puny little pay I don't see how that's going to help anything.
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Post by hawkeye on Sept 4, 2011 11:13:40 GMT -5
So if this war is costing billions, where is that money being spent? Who makes the vehicles, aircraft, missles and bombs? Who raises the food that we feed the troops with?
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Post by haus on Sept 6, 2011 19:24:13 GMT -5
The current tea party folks can't see that hawk. Yes the government spends tax payers dollars, but they buy a lot of stuff that keeps other businesses going. Now that cuts are being made its only logical that more layoffs by private companies will occur also, since their contracts will begin to dry up. I hope I got your underlying meaning there hawk. I didn't think you were suggesting keeping the wars going to create jobs.
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Post by japflapper on Sept 6, 2011 20:47:07 GMT -5
O's going to spend another 300 billion to create jobs, that should fix everything! Gotta be the dumbest president in our history.
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Post by trapper7 on Sept 8, 2011 11:41:08 GMT -5
This continual throwing money at companies that are producing so called energy efficient items is foolish. The government gives subsidies and tax cuts to companies that are producing solar, wind, and other sources of natural energy. Then when the company files for bankruptcy, the government gives them more money.
These forms of energy in their current state are very energy inefficient, but we keep funding them anyway to pave the way for going green.
IMO, at the present time, this is as big a waste of taxpayer money as the spotted owl study, the ant reproductive cycle, and other such idiotic programs.
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Post by japflapper on Sept 8, 2011 16:08:10 GMT -5
Genome mapping in catfish in alabama was my favorite. Won't ever forget Richard Shelby pushing for that, right after he ranted and raved about washington wasting too much money!
Looks like the FBI is now investigating one of them solar panel place's, the one obama held up as an example of how great his stimulus bill was working, lol. Could be the scandal that sinks his sorry butt finally!
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