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Post by trapper7 on Oct 17, 2012 13:46:09 GMT -5
Read it in the papers at lunch today. According to the Dept. of Labor, Obama created 4.3 million jobs during his administration. The sounds pretty good. Problem is, during this same period 3.9 million lost their jobs. This gain in jobs is considered insignificant according to the Labor Dept.
Based on this latest information, it's impossible for the numbers Obama's camp has issued that unemployment has dropped to 7.8%. For that to have happened, over 800,000 jobs would have had to have been created in September. The actual amount was less than 40,000 during September. This doesn't even take into account the number of job seekers that have given up finding work.
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Post by huckleberry on Oct 17, 2012 15:55:43 GMT -5
If O came out and said the sun rises in the east everyday....I would have to go check before i took it as real. You can't trust a thing that comes out of that morons mouth.
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Post by shimyshaker on Oct 17, 2012 16:57:21 GMT -5
2.5 million LESS jobs now than when he took office, but they can create all the numbers they want, people are actually out living this disaster, they don't need a graph or a speech to tell them how things are out on the street.
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Post by trapper7 on Oct 18, 2012 14:45:45 GMT -5
The liberal media is saying that this last debate was a toss up or about even. However, the latest Gallup poll says Romney has a 7 point lead over Obama since the last debate. I think the difference might be that Romney has a plan for America and stated it, Obama did not say anything when faced with the question.
Obama had a big advantage in this debate as it was obvious the woman conducting it was on his side. She stuck her foot in her mouth a couple of times making Obama look stupid.
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Post by shimyshaker on Oct 18, 2012 19:35:36 GMT -5
And of course the adjusted unemployment numbers were ALOT worse than they expected! I don't see how after 4 years you can continue to have these horrible numbers, do nothing and they would go down on their own!
I still don't care of poll's no matter who is the flavor of the week, this election has been over with since 2010, everyone's just been waiting on election day! Obama could give everyone a free wide screen TV and it wouldn't matter, lol.
I can't find a single Obama bumper sticker or sign in anyone's yard around here, stark difference from the last time he ran for office.
I'll further add that in another 4 years if things are as bad as they are now Romney won't have a chance to win either! But aside from us having an all out nuclear war I don't think there is ANYTHING he could to make things worse. Im already looking forward to 2.00 a gallon gas!
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Post by Randy Wieland on Oct 19, 2012 6:42:24 GMT -5
As a business owner, I can't tell people enough about how much more difficult it is now to grow my business. Though my personal income tax had gone down last year by about $1,200, my Capital gains tax on my business was up by almost $5k. Gross receipts were less than $8K from year to year.
Banking - what a flipp'n joke. No longer eligible for a Business line of credit due to the fluctuating Fed's laws put on the banks on the Govmt's whim to flex their arm and look like they are helping people.
Bottom line is that it will be a cold day in heck before I hire any employees. I have no incentive, no tax breaks, no consistency, and all the fear you can imagine. Why have employees when I can sub contract what I need and not carry the risk. I will never hire someone when I know in the back of my mind that in a year or two I may need to let them go. I will continue to keep myself busy and only take on the amount of work suitable for myself and subs. If I have to pay that much more in taxes on my business, why have a double whammy? Pay all the additional costs of an employee and higher taxes? There is no reason why I would triple my risk. Wonder why the market doesn't grow? Business owners are paying for too many social programs that we can't afford. Its not a case of tax breaks for the rich; its tax breaks for business owners that CREATE GOOD JOBS!
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Post by shimyshaker on Oct 19, 2012 17:22:30 GMT -5
Best friend has his own business as well as my brother, all either of them have ever done so I fully understand your side of the story. Both have held on through this idiot's term only by living off a line of credit from the bank hoping once he's out of office things will return to normal.
Million's of small business owners across the country in the same boat.
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Post by trapper7 on Oct 23, 2012 11:55:20 GMT -5
As a business owner, I can't tell people enough about how much more difficult it is now to grow my business. Though my personal income tax had gone down last year by about $1,200, my Capital gains tax on my business was up by almost $5k. Gross receipts were less than $8K from year to year. Banking - what a flipp'n joke. No longer eligible for a Business line of credit due to the fluctuating Fed's laws put on the banks on the Govmt's whim to flex their arm and look like they are helping people. Bottom line is that it will be a cold day in heck before I hire any employees. I have no incentive, no tax breaks, no consistency, and all the fear you can imagine. Why have employees when I can sub contract what I need and not carry the risk. I will never hire someone when I know in the back of my mind that in a year or two I may need to let them go. I will continue to keep myself busy and only take on the amount of work suitable for myself and subs. If I have to pay that much more in taxes on my business, why have a double whammy? Pay all the additional costs of an employee and higher taxes? There is no reason why I would triple my risk. Wonder why the market doesn't grow? Business owners are paying for too many social programs that we can't afford. Its not a case of tax breaks for the rich; its tax breaks for business owners that CREATE GOOD JOBS! I hear you, Randy. I also own my own business. Obama doesn't have a clue on what it takes to grow a business, as he has no experience at it. Besides, I don't think he really cares about growing any businesses. He has an agenda and it's not for the betterment of America. He has been lieing through his teeth during these debates. His real goal is a socialist agenda that mirrors communism. God help us if he's elected to another term!
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Post by swamperr on Oct 23, 2012 16:15:11 GMT -5
Romneycare was a socialist agenda.
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Post by trapper7 on Oct 24, 2012 11:54:15 GMT -5
I honestly don't understand how anybody in their right mind who takes a close look at the facts, could vote for Obama. He hasn't accomplished anything he said he was going to do.
If Romney is a socialist, then I would consider Obama a communist.
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Post by swamperr on Oct 24, 2012 19:29:42 GMT -5
Obama got Osama, we are on our way to becoming the largest oil producer in the world.
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Post by trapper7 on Oct 25, 2012 14:46:52 GMT -5
Obama got Osama, we are on our way to becoming the largest oil producer in the world. I agree, we will become one of the largest oil producers in the world if Romney is elected president. Obama has shut down more oil production on governmemt land and the gulf, putting thousands out of work. He has sent millions of dollars to other foreign countries for oil exploration proving he doesn't want to expand oil drilling in America. Obama has also rejected the Keystone Pipeline which would have brought more oil into the US, created thousands of jobs, and reduced our dependence on foreign oil. Just another reason why we can't afford 4 more years of him.
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Post by shimyshaker on Oct 25, 2012 17:28:49 GMT -5
He's STILL promoting 'green energy' even after all those billions he wasted on the pipe dream!
You left out his attacks on the coal industry, which has steadily increased our power bills while he's been in office. Middle class has been attacked from all sides by this guy!
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Post by trapper7 on Oct 26, 2012 14:27:37 GMT -5
I didn't forget about the coal industry. It's just that there's so much wrong with this administration, I don't have the time to list it all!
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Post by swamperr on Oct 26, 2012 20:20:43 GMT -5
Everything has been looking good lately.......except Romney's chance of winning.
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