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Post by muddyboots on Feb 2, 2008 9:02:35 GMT -5
I read about speed dye and even log wood crystals, but does anyone remember black walnut husks? this was a great dye and the natural oil from the husk was a rust inhibitor and human oder masker.
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Post by Sunshine on Feb 2, 2008 14:44:43 GMT -5
i sent some black walnuts to a guy from T-Man last fall. hes the first person i had ever heard ousing them to sye traps.it. Do you boil the husks and how long do you leave them set in the dye?
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Post by muddyboots on Feb 2, 2008 14:55:37 GMT -5
take the husks off the nut put in large tub and water bring to a boil, when the water reaches a black tar appearence reduce to a simmer place traps in for about an hour, check with a stick by lifting some ot the traps out. leave the traps in until they are as dark as you want.
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Post by tctrppr on Feb 2, 2008 17:05:47 GMT -5
Dad always put his walnut hulls in a cheesecloth and tied it up, like a big teabag. Same effect, he just didn't have all the hulls floating around loose in thew water. Less mess that way. Sumac leaves and bark will do the same thing, just not as dark as walnut hulls.
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Post by Earl8656 on Feb 2, 2008 21:40:22 GMT -5
have used them before, work good, but they are more trouble than logwood.
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Post by blakcoyote on Feb 2, 2008 23:34:50 GMT -5
I use sumac,it's more readily available.I used walnut hulls once,they sure smelled nice while they were simmering.
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Post by tctrppr on Feb 3, 2008 18:34:27 GMT -5
I use sumac,it's more readily available.I used walnut hulls once,they sure smelled nice while they were simmering. Sure does, especially over a hardwood fire. ;D
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Post by iafftrapper on Feb 4, 2008 10:42:30 GMT -5
get one of those mess bags. place hulls greener the better and throw em in. Use em everytime.
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Post by Sunshine on Feb 6, 2008 7:25:31 GMT -5
how do you guys get the hulls off cause they stain everything they touch? we run over them with the car.
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Post by tctrppr on Feb 6, 2008 9:57:00 GMT -5
Swipe yourself a box of latex or nitrile gloves from work ;D
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Post by iafftrapper on Feb 6, 2008 19:06:32 GMT -5
hulls and all for me the greener the better. I meant mesh bag not a mess bag.
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Post by huckleberry on Sept 17, 2010 22:40:31 GMT -5
When i was a kid my dad and grandpa used gramps old 49 ford to knock the hulls off the shells. They jacked one rear wheel up an inch or two, blocked the other wheel and fed the nuts into the spinning tire. They shot out against a concrete wall of the garage. Worked really well. They did it every year for as long as gramps could get around.
Now, I did the same myself years later. Only problem was, the truck I used had a limited slip rearend that I didn't realize it had. Dang thing shot off the jack and off accross the yard into a small shed. (I idled it up a bit) Bobby's dad didn't think it was a bit funny. It was his truck....and shed.
Set up a snake job today that has several walnut tres in the yard. The fella told me I could ahve all of them I wanted. It is always a toss up between walnut hulls and sumac as to which I use from year to year.
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Post by backwoodsman on Sept 18, 2010 17:59:52 GMT -5
We used green ones one year on 100+ no.1SLS and it turned them a shade of green? Walnut hulls worked good for us for decades but logwood crystals are more convenient and cleaner.
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Post by BvrRtrvr on Sept 18, 2010 22:10:30 GMT -5
how do you guys get the hulls off cause they stain everything they touch?For the last 5 years I have been getting them free from one of the walnut buyers. They hull them for the sellers, on the spot. They have been glad to get rid of them. I'll just use a scoop shovel & put them in feed sacks or 5 gal. buckets to get them home. I put them in a mesh onion or potato sack when I use them. Just don't fill the big mesh bag too full. They can be quite cumbersome to take out of the barrel when they are waterlogged. Not near as fast as Speed Dip & such, but sure don't smell as bad. And you can use them sooner. For a list of buyers in your area, you might want to try this... www.hammonsproducts.com/hulling_locations.asp?ie_key=93C050CFFEB418EBA8D%B2606A7DDBA
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Post by jamesh on Sept 18, 2010 23:12:12 GMT -5
Here is the start of one of my pots of stuff...I actualy boil this stuff all down and strain it off and put in buckets for use later...I have 11 gallons of "dye" now and will have 20 or so by tomorrow night I am hoping....
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Post by trapper7 on Oct 12, 2010 14:36:52 GMT -5
I saw on trapperman where one guy said you didn't even have to boil sumac berries to dye your traps. I find that hard to believe, but I thought I'd try it before I debunk it. Anybody else try it that way?
Jamesh, those are nice photos! Thanks for sending them. What kind of wood is that and if you strain off the dye, how long is it good for?
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Post by huckleberry on Oct 13, 2010 19:31:43 GMT -5
7 You can use sumac in a pinch without boiling them down. I have several times when i was a kid and thought all traps had to be dyed to catch anything. Of course I know they don't have to be now.
I have used all green hulls, black ones, and every color in between. They all came out black or at least a very dark brown. Sumac will sometimes have a purple tint to them.
Dorothy and I picked up 17 gallons of walnuts yesterday. I am betting before we get half way through the first bucket she will have had enough of the things.....LOL
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Post by trapper7 on Oct 14, 2010 13:36:16 GMT -5
I've got some traps in sumac berries now. The water has turned real black. I'll have to wait and see how long it takes the traps to turn. Do they have to be rusty like when you use Speed Dip or doesn't it matter?
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Post by huckleberry on Oct 14, 2010 20:53:06 GMT -5
rust makes things go much faster and a better job in the end.
Think I better explain something for ya though. When I say ya can use it in a pinch what I mean is, ya can take the berries crush them and use them like an ink or dye. just rub it on a trap for a remake or something of that nature. I am guessing they would dye a trap without boiling the water they are in, but I am thinkin it would take a few days for it to work that way.
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Post by minnesotascott on Oct 16, 2010 10:12:41 GMT -5
I saw on trapperman where one guy said you didn't even have to boil sumac berries to dye your traps. I find that hard to believe, but I thought I'd try it before I debunk it. Anybody else try it that way? Jamesh, those are nice photos! Thanks for sending them. What kind of wood is that and if you strain off the dye, how long is it good for? Looks to be the same wood I use Cedar.
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Post by trapper7 on Oct 19, 2010 14:39:22 GMT -5
Huck, you are correct in that it helps if the traps are rusted. I've got several coils in the dye that the black was scratched off by some coon that were I caught. The traps never rusted, but are just shiny. The sumac water is real black now, but the shiny traps aren't picking up the dye. The rusted ones are getting nice and black.
I guess you don't have to heat the sumac berries to dye traps.
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