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Post by Sunshine on Aug 5, 2007 18:14:25 GMT -5
do you use them and if so, on what furbearers?
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Post by bill1306 on Aug 5, 2007 18:18:16 GMT -5
I have never used kill poles, but I'm wanting to learn about them, how long should they be and how long of a snare should I make for them. The main things I'm interested in setting for are coons, cats and coyotes. Thanks
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Post by mtbadger on Aug 6, 2007 6:08:15 GMT -5
Talking about Kill poles. They are for entanglement. Something for the critter to get wrapped up in. You can use anything down to about 2ft as long as they are sturdy. For coyotes you need to use a longer one but as far as fox and coons and even cats anything 2ft and over should work.
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Post by Earl8656 on Aug 6, 2007 8:52:03 GMT -5
We don't use kill poles. We always have the possibility of catching a dog!
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Post by ADC on Aug 6, 2007 12:23:10 GMT -5
I have used a few of them for coon but never cared much for them for coons because it is too hard to target the neck on coons without missing too many to suit me. Here is the best set up I used but it still wasn't great, too many body catchs and knocked down snares to suit me... This picture is from my demo in Goshen last Friday...  |
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Post by k9 on Aug 11, 2007 8:05:12 GMT -5
Kill poles are highly effective and would not be a problem with dogs who are used to being tied, as long as you are not using an overly aggressive lock. I suppose a cam lock with kill spings might push the limit but you can release almost all dogs from this.
It would be better termed an entaglement pole, as many coon are still alive as are some coyotes. A good neck snare on a coon and he will be cinched up and dead, but neck snaring is just not that sure a thing with coons. I use them for coon and coyotes.
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Post by pegleg on Aug 11, 2007 8:08:55 GMT -5
Use kill poles on coyotes, bobcats, red fox, beaver, if it walks a trail or slides they are an effective tool. Just hate packing them out or back in.
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Post by Newt on Aug 12, 2007 7:08:01 GMT -5
I never used them. Dont think I ever will. Clint used them when we trapped/snared together. I realy cant justifi the extra work. Making them and carrying them.Dont like #9 wire for supports.
I do sometimes drive in a tangle stake.
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Post by Sunshine on Aug 13, 2007 1:59:34 GMT -5
Newt, is a tangle stake basically the same thing as a kill pole?
If not what exactly is its purpose?
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Post by Newt on Aug 13, 2007 6:37:53 GMT -5
Maybe I'm wrong here. But in my week mind.
A KILL POLE is a peice of 1/2" rerod from 2' to 8' with a snare support welded to it. The snare is fastened to this.The hole thing is carryed out to the set location. Where it is driven into the ground.Then the snare is the posisoned in the trail.
A cought animal is now gona go Round and Around till he runs out of cable.All this takes place on the trail.
My set up ---If there is nothing to anchor to.--My snare is S-Hooked to a 6 foor extension cable,with a Disposable stake S-hooked on also. In a close/tight area. I just S-Hook the disposable stake to the snare.I then Drive the disposable stake in to anchor the snare/extension cable.Cut and move in (if nothing is already there) something natural to the area. Like thick weeds ,River cane, Tree saplin or a branch. Plant this for my 14 ga. support wire to come off of ,next to the trail. I will then set the snare. Next I will go and drive a Tree branch, 2x4 ect. back about 5 feet from the trail.
The cought animal will now tangle back off the trail.
PLEASE NOTE---------I will very rarely ever go through all this work to set a snare.What I do is find a place where its easy for me to make a set . Like---Next to a anchor such as a tree ,bush or something.Loop the snare through the loop end of the extension cable,around the anchor. Attatch my 14 ga. support wire to some vegatation thats all ready there.Set the snare and move on.
If nothings avable,I move on. These animals JOG ALL NIGHT LONG. They will cover a LOT OF GROUND.I'll go and ----------Catch'm where its easy for me.
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Post by k9 on Aug 13, 2007 7:54:00 GMT -5
Yep Newt described it. However do not use 1/2 inch on coyotes, coon and fox only. Coyotes can lay over the 1/2 inch. Use 5/8 for coyotes. The kill pole entangles the animal and also provides a very good snare support system. A lot of us truck trap in the road ditches and the pole really shines there for coons. It is my anchor, support, and trail narrower all in one unit. Not good if you are walking much or trapping from a boat, due to the weight.
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Post by cajunbill2 on Aug 13, 2007 11:08:57 GMT -5
i use them for most every thing but i put mine already out before season and they stay out till they need replace or i lose the ranch for different reasons
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Post by bill1306 on Aug 13, 2007 15:06:41 GMT -5
I use a devil's hat pin here, it supports the snare and gives me a built in stake to anchor it down. I also use a 8-10' lead cable on my snares, that gets the animal away from the catch site and it is still dead and I can reset the snare in the same spot as before. I'm guessing with a kill pole the area is really torn up and you would have to move it up or down the trail to reset?
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Post by cajunbill2 on Aug 13, 2007 16:37:04 GMT -5
that depends on the place of location....some times if i know its a hot trail like at bait stations i set the kill pole off about five to six ft off of trail and set up jut like you would a drowner for a coon or beaver withe the exception that i use two stakes in stead of a stake on one end and a block on the other
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Post by cattrax on Sept 3, 2007 22:40:55 GMT -5
We use 5/8" rebar here and usually make them 4' long. But Im like Newt, I don't use them very much cause I like to use #9 and #11 wire and a stake or a tree or something to tie to, that way you don't have to pack a bunch of kill poles when you head out to set snares.
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